Max Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 2015 Acura TLX, the Audi A4, BMW 3 Series, Lexus ES 350 and ES 300h hybrid, 2015 Volvo S60 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeBrown Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 2015 Acura TLX, the Audi A4, BMW 3 Series, Lexus ES 350 and ES 300h hybrid, 2015 Volvo S60 Sounds about right but I would throw the Cadillac ATS in there too. robertlane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveB_TX Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 None of which I would ever consider buying. My sister bought a Lexus ES300h. I don't speak to her any more! (j/k). :) Robert Iggy Cerami 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeBrown Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) None of which I would ever consider buying. My sister bought a Lexus ES300h. I don't speak to her any more! (j/k). :) Me neither. I loved my Lincoln LS which I owned and drove for 15 years. I love my MKZ even more. Edited February 27, 2015 by JoeBrown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W57thNY Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) 2015 Acura TLX, the Audi A4, BMW 3 Series, Lexus ES 350 and ES 300h hybrid, 2015 Volvo S60 I think the Acura TLX, Lexus ES300, and S60, FWD versions of the Audi A4, and Buick Regal, could be considered, MKZ Competitors. All the listed cars are close in size, and drivetrain layout, as well as driving dynamics. The Audi A4 Quattro (due to its longitudinally mounted engine, and 40/60 front/rear torque split), BMW 3 Series, and Mercedes-Benz C Class, are competitors to each other. The only cars that have been semi-successful in breaking into that three-way competition are the Lexus IS series, and Cadillac's ATS. Having had an MKZ rental, I will attest to its build quality, design, and driving feel, but it's never going to feel as balanced (yes, I bring this point up a bit, but that really is one of the key points of a RWD sport sedan) as the A4, 3 Series, C Class, IS, and ATS. The people buying the aforementioned RWD sedans usually (not always, there will always be badge-whores among us), look for performance over comfort, which I think the MKZ places more emphasis on. The only reason the A4 - depending on configuration - is a competitor to both categories is that depending on version, Quattro, or FWD, can feel like a completely different car. The badge snob will buy the FWD A4, and be happy, the enthusiast will buy the Quattro version (we're going to go based upon fair weather driving - bad weather doesn't happen often enough to justify Quattro for year round use). I do have to add that if the LS were still in production, it would easily fall into the latter category as a RWD sport sedan competitor. If the LS were around today, I wouldn't consider it and MKZ competitor, just as I wouldn't consider the Lexus IS, and ES competitors. If you've seen my posts, you've seen that I am an advocate for RWD cars quite a bit (just as I am an advocate for manual transmission - but that's for a different thread) - just think of it this way, all factors being equal, would you rather have a single device that performs two tasks adequately, or two devices performing two separate tasks very well? Edited February 27, 2015 by W57thNY william 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moe Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 I'll take the MKZ over any of them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davisjl Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 (edited) I'll take the MKZ over any of them! I bought my wife an ATS at the same time I bought my 14 MKzh... The caddy has a better build quality, although I love my MKz and am completely happy with it. Edited August 28, 2015 by Davisjl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philld Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 2015 Acura TLX, the Audi A4, BMW 3 Series, Lexus ES 350 and ES 300h hybrid, 2015 Volvo S60 I'd remove the BMW 3 it's too small and has that small car feel for a continuous sport mode. I've owned a couple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R2D2 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) Prior to the the MKZ I had a BMW i535 and a Lexus ES330. I never had the 2002 BMW grow on me, thought the a car's layout was NOT intuitive, in fact I traded it in for the Lexus after 3 years. It is not all it's cracked up to be IMO I was supposed to get a Acura TL after the BMW but the dealer backed out of the deal and pissed me off so I drove out of his lot to the Lexus dealer down the road. Now the 2005 ES (2005) was a dream car, I loved driving that thing and kept it for 9 years. I would have went for a new one (2013) but I didn't like how they changed the NAV system and instrument panel. So I went shopping and found the MKZ Edited January 19, 2016 by R2D2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertlane Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Sounds about right but I would throw the Cadillac ATS in there too. I would agree with you, the ATS should have been included in the mix. I bought my wife an ATS at the same time I bought my 14 MKzh... The caddy has a better build quality, although I love my MKz and am completely happy with it. In what terms is the ATS better in build quality? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertlane Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Me neither. I loved my Lincoln LS which I owned and drove for 15 years. I love my MKZ even more. I don't see many Lincoln LS models in Dearborn, but here in Florida, I see them more often than I would have thought - the LS was a cool Lincoln that had a lot of potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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