SUGAR 3.0TT AWD Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 I have a 2016 Lincoln AWD 3.7L V6 I took my car in for preventative maintenance of the PTU. Normally it should be changed at 30k miles. Let's first back up to jul y 2019 when they replace the shaft seal then fast forward to July 2020 and only drove the car 1600 miles in 1 year. 31,159 miles and the PTU IS JUNK recommended NOT TO DRIVE it until the part came in and coukd be replaced. Mind you this car had 25k miles on it when I bought it. It's a CERTIFIED PRE-OWNED LINCOLN it came with a drive train warranty ending in January 2022 or get this originally 100,000 miles they decreased the miles by 30k now 70k miles. I know I'd never hit the miles but come on man. Changing the miles after I bought it? I have no idea if I can extend the power train past 2022 until they decide to send a letter IF AND ONLY IF THEY STILL OFFER IT. What a crock!!! Ive been changing my engine oil once it hits 50% just in case it will save that water pump. They claim the water pump was fixed for my model year but how can i believe them when the PTU fails at 31k miles I hope the new one comes with a drain plug the factory one did not because in 2016 it was still a lifetime oil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris109 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Ok, I'm game. What' a PTU? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drolds1 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Power Takeoff/Transfer Unit. The geared unit that is attached the transmission which turns the driveshaft that goes to the rear differential in AWD-equipped vehicles. https://youtu.be/Hqq792O9-ds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimflutes Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Do these people realized they are dealing with our drolds1 - Mr. Linciln MKZ , they had better be on the look out ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUGAR 3.0TT AWD Posted July 16, 2020 Author Share Posted July 16, 2020 NEW POWER TRANSFER UNIT Or PTU was installed today under my Premium Care Extended Warranty which ended in 2022 and Ford doesn't know if they will extend it again at my expense. How can a company Certify a vehicle with 2 MASSIVE PROBLEMS with the car. Now I have to be on the lookout for the water pump issue. Does anyone know of a recommended time frame to change that pump b4 it becomes a blown engine. That's right guys when the water pump fails coolant mixes with the engine oil because the pump is housed within the engine it's timing chain ran. I know my Honda Accord said every 100,000 miles the timing belt and water pump needed replacing. Will the 3.7L V6 last that long before failure or should I plan on replacing it at 50k miles the engine oil is changed more often than recommended I do it at 50% life. That life meter ticks time I lost 2% in a week while my car sat at the dealer waiting for a part and the PTU replaced ZERO miles driven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drolds1 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 2 hours ago, jimflutes said: Do these people realized they are dealing with our drolds1 - Mr. Linciln MKZ , they had better be on the look out ! ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drolds1 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 hour ago, BlackBeauty said: NEW POWER TRANSFER UNIT Or PTU was installed today under my Premium Care Extended Warranty which ended in 2022 and Ford doesn't know if they will extend it again at my expense. How can a company Certify a vehicle with 2 MASSIVE PROBLEMS with the car. Now I have to be on the lookout for the water pump issue. Does anyone know of a recommended time frame to change that pump b4 it becomes a blown engine. That's right guys when the water pump fails coolant mixes with the engine oil because the pump is housed within the engine it's timing chain ran. I know my Honda Accord said every 100,000 miles the timing belt and water pump needed replacing. Will the 3.7L V6 last that long before failure or should I plan on replacing it at 50k miles the engine oil is changed more often than recommended I do it at 50% life. That life meter ticks time I lost 2% in a week while my car sat at the dealer waiting for a part and the PTU replaced ZERO miles driven There's no time frame for replacing the water pump. It's not a maintenance item. The reason that Honda recommended changing it when changing the timing belt was that the labor involved in changing the belt is virtually the same as changing the pump. The logic is that as long as the teardown is being done to change the belt, which drives the pump, is being done, it makes sense to change the pump at the same time. If the water pump fails after the timing belt job is done, it'll have to be done over again thereby incurring double the expense unnecessarily. Your engine has timing chains, for which there is also no recommended maintenance on. I would not go to the expense of replacing the water pump unless it's leaking. You could potentially be spending a lot of money for no reason. The pump may never fail while you own the car. The good news is that very few failures have been reported and the few that have failed did so at very high mileage. This, of course, is not to say that it can't happen earlier. If you're worried, I'd watch it carefully for any signs of weeping, leaking, noise, etc. If noted, take care of it immediately. SUGAR 3.0TT AWD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUGAR 3.0TT AWD Posted July 16, 2020 Author Share Posted July 16, 2020 There service manager said the only 3.7L V6s that have come in is ONE POLICE INTERCEPTOR they get a special fleet warranty free of charge (WHICH THEY SHOULD) for the life of the vehicle so that engine which was blown due to a water pump leak happened on a car that runs almost 24/7. As far as my new PTU they installed the updated one like what is on the newer 2018s in the FordTechMakuloco YouTube videos it just doesn't have the water jacket to help cool the unit. I paid to have the rear end oil replaced and it too was discolored and that doesnt see much heat other than friction. I thought for sure Ford would pit out a great vehicle I almost went with an Acura TLX 3.5L V6 SH-AWD but that 9 speed transmission seemed to have to much going on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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