Blackbr Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Production of the Fusion is moving to China and Ford’s CEO has said that Chinese Fusions will not be imported into the US. Thus implying that the US won’t be getting any Fusions. Sure sedan sales are down (at least until gas prices skyrocket again), but I can’t believe the Fusion wasn’t successful enough to warrant continued availability in the US. I had a 2014 and thought it was a great car. What does this mean for our Zephyr? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKZMark Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 What's the source of this info? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbr Posted December 23, 2017 Author Share Posted December 23, 2017 I read autopsies.com and thetruthaboutcars.com daily, and have read this on both sites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbr Posted December 23, 2017 Author Share Posted December 23, 2017 http://autoweek.com/article/car-news/ford-fusion-production-rumored-be-moving-china Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKZMark Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 I'm still pissed that they killed the Panther platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris109 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 That is strange. Seems like Fusions are everywhere. Maybe Ford will get back into making a hybrid SUV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drolds1 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I posted this the other day. Unfortunately, the software on this board doesn't allow me to merge topics. It would be right in line with my family history of dead cars/brands going back to the 50s. My grandfather, father and uncle drove Hudsons. My brother had a Trans-Am and a Grand Prix. I had Oldsmobiles. Then I had several Mercury Sables followed by Lincoln LSes. I also have 1 Plymouth in my history that I bought as a commuter (very bad mistake). Talk about the kiss of death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris109 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I posted this the other day. Unfortunately, the software on this board doesn't allow me to merge topics. It would be right in line with my family history of dead cars/brands going back to the 50s. My grandfather, father and uncle drove Hudsons. My brother had a Trans-Am and a Grand Prix. I had Oldsmobiles. Then I had several Mercury Sables followed by Lincoln LSes. I also have 1 Plymouth in my history that I bought as a commuter (very bad mistake). Talk about the kiss of death. So, it's all your fault. 4N1M4L 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucelinc Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I suspect the death of the Fusion has been greatly exaggerated. I think you can count on the MKZ replacement being on the new CD6 platform. It most certainly will NOT be called Zephyr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drolds1 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 (edited) So, it's all your fault. Yes. :lol: I forgot to mention another uncle that always had Nash Ambassadors. Edited December 24, 2017 by drolds1 Robert Iggy Cerami 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drolds1 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I suspect the death of the Fusion has been greatly exaggerated. I think you can count on the MKZ replacement being on the new CD6 platform. It most certainly will NOT be called Zephyr. There will always be a market for mid-sized sedans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucelinc Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 (edited) Like drolds, I simply cannot fathom Ford getting out of the mid sized sedan business. Speaking of discontinued nameplates, I have had 2 Thunderbirds, a Lincoln LS and a Lincoln MKS. My Father always had Galaxies, Crown Vics, or Mercurys. We know how to kill nameplates, too! Edited December 24, 2017 by brucelinc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airflow Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 They may feel the Fusion name is not worth much in the market and want to provide for separation between the Fusion and the new vehicle. Hackett is revered as a good manager and I don’t think he is just going to cut 200,000+ (Fusion and MKZ) units in sales a year without a good game plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drolds1 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 What CUVs would they replace those sales with? My daughter has an Escape and her husband has an Edge. They're OK but I wouldn't want to own one for my personal use and I suspect lots of other people wouldn't either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbr Posted December 25, 2017 Author Share Posted December 25, 2017 I suspect the death of the Fusion has been greatly exaggerated. I think you can count on the MKZ replacement being on the new CD6 platform. It most certainly will NOT be called Zephyr. Why wouldn’t it be called the Zephyr? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucelinc Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Why wouldn’t it be called the Zephyr? Because Zephyr is a name that has been discarded 3 times and screams old and cheap. About a year ago, I met with a Lincoln rep who trains dealers. He shared some info with me and, so far, all of it has come true - including Lincoln moving back to names, Ford delaying use of the nine speed transmission and reworking it to work better with their engines, and several other tidbits. He told me that they had obtained input on the name Zephyr from focus groups. They found that those who recall the original are too old to drive, those who recall the Mercury Zephyr of the '70s regarded it as a cheap compact that was just a Ford Fairmont and those who recall the 2006 Lincoln Zephyr regarded it as nothing but a Fusion with a different grille. Bottom line was that the name was viewed negatively by the public as well as by Ford and Lincoln management. Ford has some new management now so things could change but based on what I was told earlier, the name Zephyr will never be used again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airflow Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 I’m 38 and do not think the Zephyr name has any value. I do hope they use nature to guide future naming decisions though. I really think they did great picking Nautilus. I feel it conveys a sense of strength and ability which goes well with an SUV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris109 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Yes. :lol: I forgot to mention another uncle that always had Nash Ambassadors. My dad had 2 Nash Metropolitans. They're buried in the back yard. Groundhogs have been nesting in them for 50 years. One looked like this: Robert Iggy Cerami and R2D2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drolds1 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 th My dad had 2 Nash Metropolitans. They're buried in the back yard. Groundhogs have been nesting in them for 50 years. One looked like this: Those are actually collectible now. Maybe you should haul them out of they yard. ;) My French teacher in junior high drove a Metropolitan. We hated that woman with a passion but I still remember some French. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctrcbob Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Sold in this country as a Nash (Metropolitan) however it was really an Austin Metropolitan. "Gee dad, it's a Nash"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctrcbob Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 IMHO, "Zephyr" is a much better name than anything they can come up with. It was stupid when they changed the name from Zephyr (2006's) to MKZ (2007+). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drolds1 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 They may feel the Fusion name is not worth much in the market and want to provide for separation between the Fusion and the new vehicle. Hackett is revered as a good manager and I don’t think he is just going to cut 200,000+ (Fusion and MKZ) units in sales a year without a good game plan. I felt bad vibes coming off this Hackett guy right after reading an interview. Now, I just saw this on fordnxt.com WRT to the next generation Mustang, which was due for 2020: According to a report on The Virtual Driver citing anonymous sources, “Ford executives, under the direction of new CEO Jim Hackett, have canceled the S650 Mustang program, and will cull up to 10,000 development personnel from the company’s engineering ranks by late next year.” It's starting to sound like the Jac Nasser era all over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markshappycampers Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 I find it to be comical how readily some are willing to promote articles which are based on "anonymous sources"! "Anonymous sources are tantamount to gossip"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drolds1 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Many of those "anonymous sources" statements have turned out to be true over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucelinc Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 (edited) The name "Corsair" was tradmarked by Ford in August. That may or may not mean anything. They also had a concept called "Sentinel" at one time. Edited December 27, 2017 by brucelinc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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