Mark95man

I noticed some delamination on the edges of the windshield. Ok, as I was about to call Lincoln on this due to reading this subject in the past. Then a rock resolved the issue. The windshield on my wife's 2014 MKZH took a heavy hit. Since we replaced many windshields on our vehicles, I figured no concern. Been using Safelite for at least 12 replacements over the years. This was the first for the MKZH and a warning appeared. Seems any vehicle with a lane keeping features does use a "camera". Depending upon the install, the camera might have to be realigned for these systems to work properly. Since we have zero deductible, no problem money wise. The Insurance company would NOT pay for an OEM windshield but would pay any additional cost for camera alignment--could be up to $500. Safelite replaced the windshield and said IF there's an issue, they have the equipment to do this. I was advised to test the system and if there was a problem to call them. There's an area near us with light to no traffic on a road with painted lines. Drove the car there and let the car drift over the lines several times. The steering wheel did virbrate/shake and a warning to keep hands on steering wheel + a message to rest or drink coffee. So everything appears to be working fine. This is just an FYI to all who have this equipment.

If you're going to keep the vehicle beyond it's factory warranty, it's looking like you should get an extended drive train and electronics coverage. I've read warnings on the engines with the internal water pump. If or when they leak, they either destroy the engine and your wallet or if you're lucky just the pump must be replaced. This usually takes place after the warranty expires from the examples I've found online. Water pump replacement cost, $2,300 at today's rates. Or an engine replacement that can exceed the value of the vehicle. This is what has been called a non-issue for some. But if your vehicle has this issue, it would become a costly issue for you. Next year my wife will either sell or trade in her 2014 MKZ and obtain a leased car. I just hope this water pump failure does NOT effect residual value of the lease at it's end.

The MARK III leakage was from lack of use as the anti-freeze was changed every 3 years. On the 1965 Ford LTD, once I installed a cast iron water pump, no more leaks. I ran into a "lot" of aluminum water pumps that were defective. Lesson learned--if one leaks do NOT get a replacement from the same lot number. Those pumps were a PIA to change as everything was bolt through that pump.

I owned my purchased new 1970 MARK III for 42 years and replaced the water pump twice. My purchased new 1965 FORD LTD I owned for 45 years, replaced the water pump a few times. Owned a few other cars with water pump issues. My wife's 1995 MGM needed a new water pump-very east to do. All cars were purchased new, maintained and had high miles on them. If I was in the market for a used FoMoCo vehicle and it had the internal water pump, I wouldn't purchase it, From my experience on this Website, most members do not get involved with maintenance or repairs. Our next vehicle will be leased but wondering if the resale will take a hit? Yes, it's a non-issue only if you don't experience it.

http://lincolnforums.com/forums/threads/14056-Failed-Water-Pump-WOW!! If you think about resale value, like I do, then the problem is not acceptable at all. This will spread just like the 3.5 EcoBoost head carbon problem. Who would want to purchase a 5 year old time bomb that has a costly repair in its future? To replace the water pump, the engine must be removed = $2,300 cost.

But that drainage is not happening as per https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Ford+EcoBoost+3.5+water+pump+failures

I am researching vehicles all of the time for our next one. Seems like the 3.5 EcoBoost has an internal water pump. When it leaks, it destroys the engine. Water pump replacement runs $2,500, engine replacement run $7,500. Bad news for resale value. Here's a link that could turn your hair grey: https://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=424482&highlight=water+pump

Here's a link to the type I purchased. I would recommend that you use this information to shop around for the best price. They are sold as one, two or four pieces: http://www.amazon.com/Pinch-Weld-Universal-Jack-Pads/dp/B00JQTYGBU/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1447590974&sr=8-4&keywords=pinch+weld+adapter. I purchased mine either on eBay or Amazon 18 months ago. There are many different types availalbe.

I installed the stick on type to my Wife's 2014 MKZH. Just too hot in Arizona during the Summer to leave the car parked in the Sun. Then when or if it rains, it keeps the water out of the car.

I purchased two pinch weld adapters for my floor jacks. They install on the jack location under the car. The floor jack then lifts the car via the pinch weld adapters. As was stated, if you do not use some sort of adapter, you'll damage the pinch weld. Since it's not worth the time to drive to the dealership for the free oil changes & tire rotations, I do it myself and use Mobil 1 5W20--the dealership wanted $70 for Mobil 1 oil changes on those "free" included oil changes. My cost with new Motorcraft filter, under $15 when supplies are purchased on sale.

As for run flats tires, I speak from experience. On our 3 purchased new Corvettes with run flat tires, not a problem. Had one on the road low pressure warning--a nail in tire. I just drove to a tire repair shop and it was fixed. No hard riding in THOSE cars with run-flat tires. For toll roads, yes that's true as ONLY service trucks that are authorized--meaning they pay a fee for a license--to enter the toll road. The decline in spare tires has been striking. A decade ago, five percent of cars sold lacked a spare tire. Today, AAA says 36 percent don't contain a spare. That number is only expected to rise as carmakers chase Corporate Average Fuel Economy mandates of 54.5 miles per gallon by model year 2025, and reducing weight is one of the key ways to reach the target. In many cases, carmakers still offer a spare as optional equipment. When that's not chosen, manufacturers have replaced spares with tire-inflator kits. Each four-pound kit eliminates about 30 pounds of weight. But these kits aren't a comparable substitute, says AAA, which says they can cost up to 10 times more than a tire repair and have a shelf life of only four to eight years. Most importantly, they only are effective for a limited number of problems. AAA evaluated the most common inflator kits on the market and found they work well in some scenarios. If an object that caused a puncture is no longer in the tire, a sidewall is damaged or a blowout occurs, a tire-inflator kit couldn't fix those problems.

Well excuse me, but I also have many things to do and one of them is NOT waiting on others to come to my aid. I always wondered why LINCOLN did not install run flat tires? Maybe an unsprung weight issue?

My wife's MKZH was hit in the right rear quarter panel at 003,500 miles. We had time to waste, so we played the Insurance game. It didn't look bad but I knew it was going to be very costly for the other Insurance Company--their estimate was under $3,000 but they wouldn't explain how the repairs would be done at their "approved" shop. No thank you! We took the car to a Ford/Lincoln Dealership--where we had body shop experience--for proper repair. The total bill was just under $10,000. The quarter panel had to be replaced as there's limits on repairs for a unibody vehicle. Basicly, the car was disassembled to reach the factory seems for the quarter panel--the panoramic roof had to be removed, front and rear windshields, side airbags, unibody body pull to factory specs., etc, etc. The car was certified as correctly repaired with no signs of the hit but it was hit. Now doing a diminished value claim of $6,850. The other Inusrance company told us to F off, so a Lawyer is now handling the claim. F us? No F you!

Yes I did install a Fusion spare tire in our MKZH last year. I did that due to not wanting to give up a spare tire as it would be used only for tire failure. Both of our vehicles have H.D air compressors that get their power directly from the vehicle's battery. Also a flat repair kit that I would use before changing the tire. That would allow me to drive to a tire shop for a proper repair. When I first rotated the tires, I did a test fitting and found no real issues. Yes the tire is smaller but most spare tires have that issue due to available storage space. I, for one, wonder why Lincoln did not factory install RUN FLAT TIRES when they did not install a factory spare tire? We plan on replacing the MKZH at 3.5 years of age. I found the MKZH a poor riding car. Unibody + FWD construction is not my cup of tea. Additionally the MPG is not as advertised-as we all know. Currently my wife is getting 37.6 MPG since the hot AZ weather is almost gone. Seems in the Winter it's in the low to mid 40's, then in the Summer it drops to the low to mid 30's.

The insurance approved shop that I was sent to did an estimate. On it there were statements that the car had dings and other paint damage, etc. Nonsense as the car was mint. I found out they list that on all estimates for cars that they work on. I said that covers you if you ding the car or damage the paint! The Dealership did an inspection and noted there were no dings and/or paint damage. My wife's car was repaired as perfect as it could be. She was hit in the right rear as traffic ahead slowed down entering an expressway. The guy in back didn't pay attention and bumped the car. That bump was over $10,000 to fix correctly with no paint on black seals, etc. The car looked stolen with many parts removed until the painting was completed.The upper and lower bumper covers & parking sensors replaced along with some foam behind the bumper covers. The unibody was straightened to factory specs. The right tail light and bucket replaced. Right quarter panel replaced as the panoramic roof had to be taken off to reach the factory seams. Rear deck lid was not damaged. Several sensors were damaged/replaced. Once we got the car back, there were no problems. The dealership also did an "as built" computer download as some electronics were damaged. I knew this would be a major repair as we have photos of the complete repair process.

My wife's 2014 MKZH had what appeared to be a "light hit" on the right rear. The bumper upper & lower covers had to be replaced. Because of the angle of the hit, the right rear quarter panel had a small crease that could NOT be repaired so it wouldn't show. This required a replacement of the quarter panel at the factory welds. The interior roof finish panel had to be removed via the front window shield that was removed. The side air bags had to be removed along with the rear & small side window. The full panoramic roof had to be removed to reach the factory rear quarter panel welds & glue spots. The side anti-collision warning system was damaged along with the back up warning system & right rear tail light assembly. The unibody had to be straightened as is usually the case with this type of car. All work done by factory certified technicians--their names and license numbers are on the repair paperwork. The Insurance company's shop first stated a repair under $3,000. They could not answer my repair questions, so I took the car to the Dealership where we had body shop experience. Since this Hybrid car had many technical issues, the Dealership was the correct place for repair. Total cost grew to over $10,500---all because a careless driver was not paying attention to traffic and hit her car. Since no one was hurt, our cost was nothing due to a rear end hit. Total time for repair was a little over 2 months due to electrical issues and new part delay. As of 10/04/2015 there are no issues with the car except a Carfax report lisitng the accident. After our car rental insurance was up, the dealership let us use one of their cars for over a month. The repair is great and you can't tell it was hit. Every system was checked with repairs as required. I attempted to resolve a diminished value claim with the other insurance company. They basicly wanted nothing to do with that. I worked on it a few months and got no where. Therefore a diminished value attorney is now handling the case. We are seeking $6,750 due to the value lost on the day of the accident.

I used: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2PC-Bright-LED-COB-Driving-Daytime-Running-Lamp-Fog-Light-White-12V-Car-Auto-DRL-/271475108618?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f352d6b0a&vxp=mtr. Great for the trunk and under the dash as they light up the dark interior at night. For the under dash, I connected the LEDs to the lite LINCOLN on the door sill opening. They turn on when the door is opened and turn off when closed. For the trunk--connected to the factory light and placed this in the top, center of the trunk. I also installed these in my Navigator which also had a dark under dash with no lighting. Others just purchased another costly dim factory light but these LEDs are the answer to the issue.

There's one thing I can say about the Pano roof on my wife's 2014 MKZH---just hope that none of your quarter panels are damaged! I knew what the repair would be just to reach all of the factory welds--as I worked on cars. Can anyone guess the cost of a correct repair?

How sad that you two gentleman cannot let sleeping dogs sleep in peace. It appears you want to ramp this up again, ok then. Interesting how certain members of this forum cannot accept someone who questions Lincoln's handling of their EPA 45 MPG issue. Seems they are annoyed by my posted opinions on this topic. Enjoy your laugh but remember you also purchased a misrepresented, Not As Described vehicle! Lincoln of course wins as some consumers do not realize they were taken for a ride with a cheap payoff.

That was one time you needed the tire replacement insurance. If you had the insurance, the flat wouldn't have happened. Seems to be that's the way it is. Most of the time the tire insurance isn't worth it but the dent insurance is a good idea.

My 2014 Navigator has an EPA MPG of 15 as I got 17.7 on a trip and currently 16.4 around town. Our 95 & 08 MGM got 27 MPG while my 96 & 07 TC got 26 MPG. All depends on your driving habits.

RE: "Bottom line, you used the sticker EPA MPG to determine your purchase and Ford misrepresented that number." Total agreement on that! And you're just going to settle for $1,050. RE: "As I have also said before, if you'd like help in getting some of that data on your next purchase, let me know. I'd be happy to do what I can to help you make a more informed decision." No thanks as you also got screwed with a MKZ Hybrid. Mostly likely, I've purchased far more NEW cars than you and NEVER had a situation like this. AGAIN I'll state the issue as YOU don't understand what it is: On THE day we purchased this MKZ Hybrid, Lincoln HAD FULL KNOWLEDGE of this misrepresentation on the "Not As Described" MKZ Hybrid. Lincoln dragged their feet on their announcement of this false information. IF Lincoln has been HONEST and did a release of this FALSE TESTING DATA, I wouldn't have purchased this vehicle. That's on Lincoln and NOT me! Lincoln researched and found a low ball figure of $1,050 to buy off those who do not challenge anything in life. Just keep up placing the blame on me and your stupid offer of assistance on future purchases.

Glad to see you're still here! Speaking about exaggerated claims--as in"An update on the flat tire and my Lincoln experience. There was no charge for the new tire and no charge for the new cartridge to put in the tire pump." Did you actually purchase that costly tire insurance that Dealerships push on buyers? You have yet to answer, so what's was the real deal?

The real world? Do you mean what owners posted? On these Lincoln Club Websites, I noticed lots of exaggerated claims. Most forums on this subject, the entries tend to go from one extreme to another. I loved the one that stated the owner drove over 75 MPH and got 45 MPG! A mix of hard right footed drivers vs how the car was designed to be driven. Total hit or miss on finding the correct information. Been there and read that!

As to YMMV--that's doesn't count as it's based upon Manufacturers error in EPA testing!