drolds1

10 hours ago, Zondedo said:

DrOlds, do you still have any Oldsmobiles?

 

Unfortunately, no.  Unless you count diecast models?. I have a '69 Hurst Olds and a '70 Cutlass Supreme SX.  

4 hours ago, wharriso said:

For what its worth, I was able to pick up power from inside the left A-pillar for my dashcam.  There is both switched and constant power there.

Good to know.

4 hours ago, wharriso said:

Thanks man!  I feel dumb but very appreciative.

You're welcome.  I wouldn't have known what it was either, except for my curiosity about where the stray piece of plastic came from.  In fact, my initial impression was that it was something the factory screwed up.

45 minutes ago, bbf2530 said:

 

Hi 17MKZ and drolds1. For me, it was series of 5 brand new black Mustang GT's, beginning with the 1982 model year reintroduction of the GT model.

 

And the same situation for me in my neighborhood. It was a running joke with the neighbors every time I would be out there washing the car, even in the dead of winter. They never saw a mechanized car wash.

 

No more black cars (or Mustang GT's) for me since the early 00's.

 

Ahhh...memories...lol

5 in a row? I bow down to you.?

48 minutes ago, bbf2530 said:

Well there you go, thanks to drolds1! ?

 

I have not yet had the need to look up under the dash of my 2018. ?

Glad to be of service. 

I hope you never have to look under there. After installing my dashcam,  I don't look forward to getting under there again any time soon.

2 hours ago, wharriso said:

At this point, I think the problem must be a fuse.  You can drive this car around in the cold and it will stay warm inside the passenger area even if there is not heat blowing.  It appears that the heater core is warm, it is just not blowing heat.  I changed the blend door actuator on the passenger side but while there was no blend door, I started the car and both sides were blowing slightly warm air.  After installing the new blend door, things went back to the way the were, indicating to me that no power is getting to that blend door.  So now I am going through the painful process of checking every fuse in sight and trying to reach fuses that are not in sight.  Does anyone know if there is some kind of HVAC reset that can be done to maybe recycle the system?

Some modules have been known to reset after disconnecting and reconnecting the battery.  Maybe you'll get lucky.  At least it doesn't cost anything.  There may be an engineering HVAC reset procedure, but I don't know if that's a thing.  Maybe someone with Forscan will jump in here to help.  On my Lincoln LSes, there was self-diagnosis sequence of buttons to push on the EATC that would display fault codes, but IDK if that exists in these cars.  I think that at this point, you need to have the system read for any codes.  There are a number of cabin sensors in these cars, and there's a possibility one of yours may be malfunctioning.

 Do you have ambient lighting?  That's  the fiber optic tube that lights the footwell on the driver's side, not a trigger. Does it light up at night? It should.  How do I know what it is?  The dealer broke the tip off the one on the passenger side of my 2020 when they were prepping for delivery.  I found it on the floor.  Nice work!   It still functions as intended, though, so I never complained about it.

Here's mine in operation:

4 hours ago, 17MKZ3.0TT said:

I think it was around 15 years ago when I swore I'd never buy another black car-they start to look filthy on the way home from the car wash ? I waited around 4-5 months for the local dealers to get an unsold metallic gray one in, since nobody wanted to talk price (and this was BEFORE covid) IMHO. I quietly put the word out everywhere for around 100 miles that I'd pay a $500 "finder's fee" for the right car, new or used, up to 10k miles. I just had to get used to a dirty car in winter, again.

Me too.  I had a black '75 Olds Cutlass Salon coupe with a full black vinyl roof.  It was gorgeous when it was clean, which was almost never.  A running joke in my family to this day is the time I started washing it one winter's day (which I still do by hand as long as it's above freezing) and it started snowing when I was half-way done.  I just kept going until it was finished.  Yes, I'm that crazy and everybody knows it.  I swore I'd never get another black car...until I got a black 1986 Mercury Sable.  I traded that one in for a white '89 Sable, and I've never looked back.  Haven't had another black car.  I'm too old to keep after one now anyway.?

1 hour ago, MKZIan said:

My description was easy to understand. I told them there was a buck when shifting from second to third gear. They replaced the trans. It was Classic Ford Lincoln of Columbia. They were extremely qualified.

 

They were extremely booked the month my motor blew. Only a few workers worked. It could be a simple fix, it could mean taking it back.

IMO, the solution is clear.  Take it back.

Welcome to the Forum!  That looks exactly like the 2017 I had. 

2 hours ago, bbf2530 said:

Hi drolds1. Yes, I also received it. But I did not check into it to see what home services are available or costs.

If you do check into it, I hope you have better luck than I did.  I've learned to lower my expectations with the Lincoln website.  If you click past this page, you can schedule service at an individual dealer.  I didn't go any further than that, as it involves a bunch of questions.  Maybe at that point the possibility of home service comes up.

I got an email from Lincoln yesterday offering home service.  It was news to me, and I was wondering what services they offer to do at your home.  Has to be relatively simple stuff such as oil changes, wiper blades, filter changes, etc.  I can't see them doing tire rotations without a lift. When you click on the 'Schedule Service' box  pictured), it just takes you to a dealer locator with a very limited list of service requests to check off, some of which clearly can't be performed at your home, e.g,  collision repair.  Did anyone else get this email?

Mercon LV, the fluid that should be in your trans, expands a lot when it's hot. Assuming that you followed the procedure for checking the ATF in the owners manual, the question is why is the fluid low in the first place?  Transmissions don't "use" fluid.  The only other place it can go is via a leak.  Has the trans ever been serviced before?  If so, maybe it wasn't properly filled.  The OM says no to drive the car if the fluid is below the dipstick. That said,  a standard drain and fill starts with 4½ quarts of MERCON LV and you can adjust if necessary when the trans is completely warmed up.  Nothing else unless it clearly states that it meets FORD WSS-M2C938-A.  No "universal" ATF or anything like that.

The procedure is simple and can be seen here.  In the video, he's working on a Ford Edge Sport, but there's no difference for these purposes. It's a 6F55.

On 10/22/2021 at 11:55 AM, pwcopy said:

. Why TF does it have to go to the body shop to get a squirt of lube on a squeaky hinge?!? Many thanks for your help, PW

Apparently, they have a reason.  See here.

Wow!  That sure escalated. Thanks for the update.

See this post. There's more information than I originally had.

The illustrations that I posted earlier are from the 2020 service manual.

2020 Lincoln MKZ order guide:

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  — Elements Package (63D) available on MKZ Reserve (200A) and MKZ Hybrid Reserve (500A) ○ Heated/Cooled First Row Seats ○ Heated Rear Seats ○ Heated Steering Wheel

So, yeah. I agree-BS.  I don't know what else you can do.  As I PM'd you earlier, mine don't work right either.

Ironic. Lincoln specifically designed this fob as part of the MKZ upgrade for 2017. They wanted it to have a heavier, more luxurious feel befitting a luxury car and to further differentiate it from the Fusion.  IMO, the previous fob that I had with my 2014 was a cheap-feeling piece shared with the Fusion.  The "chrome" trim on it started peeling and went under my fingernail. Ouch!  I was a member of the Lincoln MKS forum when that was model was introduced and there were numerous complaints about the fob.  Some owners had them replaced under warranty for the peeling issue.

19 hours ago, bbf2530 said:

Hi DrakeR. And to add to leftovertures good information (but unfortunately not for you): if you are a Costco member, their tire prices (along with their tire buyer perks) are near unbeatable. Excellent prices, plus...for the life of the tires: Included Road Hazard warranty. Free balancing. Free flat repairs. Free tire rotations. Free tire pressure check/fill with nitrogen etc.

 

However, if you were/are a Costco member, this is information you likely already knew. And their manufacturer selection is limited. It normally includes Michelin, BF Goodrich and Bridgestone.

And maybe Continental? Not sure at the moment.

 

Also, you are correct, I should have been more precise/detailed in my previous reply. So I attached the Ford/Lincoln Tire Warranty guide. If anyone wants to take the time to read though it, there was essentially (in reality) no treadwear warranty for any OEM tire on a 2018 prior Ford/Lincoln...no matter the manufacturer.

 

Some brands outright state they only cover "defects in material and workmanship", and show no treadwear warranty specified or offered (i.e. Toyo, Hankook, Maxxis, Pirelli, Yokohama).

 

And Michelin forces the vehicle owner to jump through so many hoops that by the time they get done, there is essentially no treadwear warranty (as you stated you have heard with Michelin). For example, with Michelin tires (copy and paste), just one caveat is: " 2. The tires have been rotated and inspected by a participating Michelin
tire retailer, and the attached Mounting and Rotation Service Record has
been fully completed and signed;"

It is very doubtful many owners jump through rotation/Service Record hoop.  And once you don't, there goes the ethereal treadwear warranty anyway.  So while there is a "treadwear warranty", it is not usable in real life.

 

Full disclosure: I can not speak for OEM tire treadwear warranties in the 70's, 80's, 90's or 00's etc. Although I was driving then, I have never needed to have a tire replaced for bad/low/insufficient treadwear life. I've been lucky.

 

I guess my only point is that Michelin is no better and no worse than every other manufacturer when it comes to OEM tire warranties. In real life, their warranties are mainly for "defects in material or workmanship".

 

And to everyone: I try to have a non-Internet life once in a while, or at least my lovely wife makes me, so I only took a quick look through the Tire Warranty Guide , so if I missed anything, please feel free to correct any incorrect information.

 

Hope this information may help someone at some time, and good luck.

2017-Ford-Lincoln-Tire-Warranty-version-1_tirtw_EN-US_02_2016-1.pdf

Just to add to the Michelin "hoop jumping," I've read anecdotal accounts of Michelin dealers denying any warranty claims on tires with tire dressing applied.

Yes, I found it annoying in my 2017 to have to keep turning on the Auto Hold feature each time the car was restarted.  My son had a M-B that, IMO, had a better solution, i.e., after stopping,  you just pushed down further on the brake pedal to engage Auto Hold.  There was a trade-off, however.  In my 2020, the LKA defaults to off and has to be reactivated after shutoff.  I prefer it the 2020 way.  Of course, they could have just left the LKA on as well as Auto Hold.   I didn't think there was a ledger for features.?

You're very welcome.  Glad to help.  There was a wait for loaners even before the pandemic.  Yes, dealer inventory levels are at historic lows.   A friend of mine just got his new c-class M-B after extending his lease on the old one that expired last March.

I have a subscription to AlldataDIY.  

On 10/8/2021 at 6:20 AM, leftoverture said:

I'm not sure there is a motor for the seat heaters, I think it is more of a heater element. I know in my 2014 it took a very long time to warm up (many miles of driving) , are you sure you're giving it enough time to get warm? I would suggest you visit a local auto upholstery shop, they will be able to fix it and certainly for a whole lot less. 

If it's just the standard heated seat only, then yes, it's a heating pad.  For the climate controlled seats, however, there are separate blowers for the lower cushion and the backrest.

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The blower motor and TED for heating/cooling is an integrated module. 

Lower cushion motor:

Back cushion motor:

Big Red, did the dealer pull the codes from the system to come up with that diagnosis?  If they're cooling and not heating on both sides, it seems unlikely that 4 motors/TEDs went out at the same time.  Especially, if both blowers in each seat are running in the A/C mode.  The price quoted seems way off, even when considering it's CDN.  This has sometimes discovered to be a simple repair, just by pulling the connections from the module under the passenger's seat and inspecting for bent or burnt pins. Sometimes just reconnecting them cures the problem.  I'd give it a shot.  If that's not it, I'd try another dealer that's willing to properly diagnose this.  A ford dealer could handle this as well.  Let us know what happens.

If you ever want to see if a particular code is discussed in the forums, just enter it into the search box above and any pertinent discussions will come up.  I did that and nothing came up.

WRT how long this will take to diagnose and repair,  it's difficult to say.  There are a lot of variables here.  Here's a description of the reason for the code being triggered and the possible causes for the code in a 3.0T:

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I haven't showed the diagnostic "tree" but it's pretty extensive.  This can be as simple as a loose hose, or it can get complicated, e.g., requiring the use of a smoke machine, etc.  I think it's a safe bet that the service writer is going to advise you to leave the car and not wait.  In my experience, unless it's routine, like an oil change/tire rotation, new battery, etc. you won't want to wait.  You might come in early in the morning at sit there for hours before they even pull your car into the service bay.  You're entitled to a Lincoln loaner for warranty work.  What I do is make the appointment and arrange for a loaner for the afternoon before the appointment, drop the car before closing time and go home in the loaner.  Is the car showing any kind of driveability issues?   If not, this isn't an emergency. 

The last "works" coupon was from my dealer and the price is now $69.95.  Interestingly enough, that includes full synthetic oil, which was never included before.  That's actually quite a bargain when you compare the cost of similar service for imports.  My friend just paid $129.95 for his 2007 Lexus, and it didn't include what the Ford/Lincoln deal does.  At M-B and BMW, it runs into the hundreds.

On 9/26/2021 at 11:33 AM, Chris109 said:

What about the massive reflection from the top of the dashboard off the windshield when driving toward the sun?  When I had a boat and heading into the sun, I ended up putting a black towel on the dash to 'turn off' the reflection.

There's also a whopper of a reflection in the rear window from the top of the retractable sunshade.