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I ended paying around $110 for lug nuts replacement that was once a MKz recall and free replacement.  I am not original owner but my MKz was originally leased from same dealer and I picked it up as certified pre-owned.  What surprise me that dealer was asking $250 for lug-nuts replacement.  I argued that this car has been serviced from day one with the dealer. Then service guy kept insisting that no recall on  it.  I told that I know about recall and read about it. I was going to get printout if he kept insisting but he dropped the price down to just over hundred bucks.  I wanted to get it replaced and felt it was reasonable.  This wasn't about money for me but I thought the dealer service guy didn't represent Lincoln luxury service experience, if there is one.  It felt like a Kia dealership but I am sure Kia treats their service customers better.

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1 hour ago, jm98 said:

I ended paying around $110 for lug nuts replacement that was once a MKz recall and free replacement.  I am not original owner but my MKz was originally leased from same dealer and I picked it up as certified pre-owned.  What surprise me that dealer was asking $250 for lug-nuts replacement.  I argued that this car has been serviced from day one with the dealer. Then service guy kept insisting that no recall on  it.  I told that I know about recall and read about it. I was going to get printout if he kept insisting but he dropped the price down to just over hundred bucks.  I wanted to get it replaced and felt it was reasonable.  This wasn't about money for me but I thought the dealer service guy didn't represent Lincoln luxury service experience, if there is one.  It felt like a Kia dealership but I am sure Kia treats their service customers better.

Hi jm98. Just as an FYI - I do not believe that the lug nut issue was ever a "Recall".  Recalls are generally for serious safety issues. A recall requires all owners of the affected vehicles being notified that their cars have a safety issue which must be corrected, and how to arrange to bring your car in and have your Dealership correct it..

At best, Ford simply issued a TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) to it's Lincoln and Ford Dealerships that the lug nuts should be replaced if a customer brings their car in and has an issue with "swollen" lug nuts.

While some people may consider the "Recall" versus "TSB" conversation a matter of semantics, the wording makes a big difference.  That being said, the Service Advisor should have been aware of the issue or at least run your VIN through the OASIS system to see if there are any outstanding TSB's. However, most TSB's do not extend warranty coverage.

Hope this information helps. Good luck.

 

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I hate Ford/Lincoln lug nuts.  Why?  Because they use a stainless steel cap on top of a nut.  The cap is decorative and functions quite well until it gets hit with an impact socket during tire rotations, etc.  Then the cap gets chewed up to the point that you have to use a slightly larger six point socket and may even need to use a hammer to bang a socket onto the lug nut.  This has been true for both of my gf's two Focus, my Fusion, and now my MKZh.  Below is a pic of what happens to the lug nut (from my Fusion), the Ford lug nut on the right, a solid aftermarket replacement on the left.  I wasn't about to have this happen to the MKZ.  The MKZ uses 14x1.5 lug nuts and I found a set for $32 on eBay from the same seller I bought the Fusion's lug nuts six years ago.  https://www.ebay.com/itm/20-Lug-Nuts-14x1-5-Chrome-Replacement-Lugs-fits-Ford-Mustang-OE-Wheels-2015-2020/312591506707  These fit the MKZ's 19" wheels perfectly and have a brighter chrome finish that I like vs. the duller stainless steel.  One thing, I don't know how well they'll hold up in a Northern climate with road salt.  The Fusion's lug nuts looked great after six years (save for a few scuffs from impact sockets!) but I live in Texas.  Oh, and don't forget, the MKZ torque spec is 150ft/lbs (vs what I'm used to, 100ft/lbs on the Fusion and Focus).

 

If you never use an impact socket, you don't need this.  If you do, or your shop does, you do.  You don't want to be stuck at the side of the road trying to remove a tire with a socket that no longer fits.

 

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Edited by scn101

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Same issue with Toyota, Dodge, and Chevy lugnuts.  And probably other makes too.  You would think that solid one piece lugnuts would have been standard OEM equipment a long time ago from all manufacturers.

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Dunno if anyone else thinks that lug nuts are too expensive, but I do.  I found these on Amazon, and thought they were more to the left of the price point.  I bought a set, and blew it on this one.   I have no idea if they will rust on me, but in my opinion, they are worlds better than the capped nuts that were on the car (only see edit below).  Five of the capped nuts had been squashed by an impact and I had to drive an impact socket onto them to get them off, and then use a vice to get them out of the impact socket.  Anyway, a link for you (I removed the link so nobody else goes through what I just did) and the price does not matter if the product is the wrong one..

 

By the way, please note that I am using these on a 2012 MKZ

 

EDIT EDIT EDIT - DO NOT BUY THESE....  i BLEW IT BOYS.  I had a wheel off to check the brakes and discovered that the neck of each lug nut was not going through the hole in the wheel.  I would have to drill all my wheel holes out to 18 or 19 MMs in order fore these to work as they should.  It is a very good thing that I only drove about 20 miles all together on these, as if any had come loose I would have ruined that wheel.   I took all but five of them off, and will limp around like this until my newly ordered McGard lug nuts come in.  I have four original lug nuts and one washer nut on each of three wheels and three originals and two washer nuts on the fourth, which will suffice till 1st of April.

 

Final Note:  The nuts I bought were actually made in a size to fit Toyota OEM aluminum wheels, so the idea of the washered mag wheel nuts was correct, but the stem size to fit throught the lug holes in the wheels was too large.  They do, I presume, make these in a size to fit my wheels, but I just went back to coned nuts from McGard.

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Mine wheels have been off the car for dealer service 4 times and the nuts don't have a mark on them.

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49 minutes ago, MKZMark said:

Mine wheels have been off the car for dealer service 4 times and the nuts don't have a mark on them.

 

You have a good dealer.  They are likely not using impact wrenches on them and are probably not in a hurry.  All of my original nuts are marked up, and five of them were of no more use whatever.

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I am looking at replacing all of my lug nuts with Gorilla's "The system" P/N 71633NBC (all lugs in the set are lock lug nuts in black chrome, 71633N for regular chrome). has any one put black lug nuts on and have a picture of them? I fear that I might like the sound of it better than what it actually ends up looking?

 

Back story on why I'm going with all lock nuts: My Wife's navigator lug nuts were in very bad condition the last time we went to Discount Tire, they actually used a mallet to get stuck sockets off and messed up all of her rims, I was not happy. DT blamed Ford but I have repeatedly asked for our lug nuts to be installed by hand to slow the technicians down a little so they can think about what there doing but DT always has reasurances about how there process is perfictlly safe. Needless to say after they marred all of her rims I got fed up and started looking in to alternative options. Installed a chrome set of Gorilla's "The System" and the next time the Navi was at DT the techs had a WTF look on there face when realizing that they were going to have to install a key on every single lug nut in order to remove and install each wheel. See attached photos of front drivers rim after install bellow, DT has agreed to fix/replace the rims to make it right im just trying to avoid being in this situation a second time:  

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