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17 hours ago, Loki-MKZ said:

Oh this is all I'm doing to the Lincoln, I'm going to race it at GLD once in the Spring and that's it, daily driver with a kick. The Mustang is my performance car and will be getting all the goodies, been owning most versions of the Mustang since 1985.

I may be joining team Mustang since I rather wait for more CD6 vehicles to get out once my Focus lease ends in 2021. I haven't made an account yet on Mustang6g, but I've been lurking and soaking up information on the pony cars like a sponge! I've seen you and others over there, ha!

Which Mustang I'm consider? Well...I'm honestly still thinking on that. No doubt it'll have a Coyote V8 or better. That much I'll say.

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Zalvern,

Yep, over there I'm Loki GT. :) The GT Premium 401A is an awesome package, mine is the 400A package so doesn't have the fancy LCD gagues. 

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Great color!

 

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On 2/8/2019 at 4:17 AM, Zalvern said:

I may be joining team Mustang since I rather wait for more CD6 vehicles to get out once my Focus lease ends in 2021. I haven't made an account yet on Mustang6g, but I've been lurking and soaking up information on the pony cars like a sponge! I've seen you and others over there, ha!

Which Mustang I'm consider? Well...I'm honestly still thinking on that. No doubt it'll have a Coyote V8 or better. That much I'll say.

I just read of a new 7.3 liter engine Ford is developing. I hear it'll be an F150 engine choice but will fit a Mustang. It's evidently going to be a pushrod V8, sounds like a step back to the traditional smaller SBF size, with modern variable valve timing etc. That's what the Chevy LS engines are now, modern SBC's with new tech, plus heads patterned after the old Cleveland heads, which dominate NASCAR, since 1975. Maybe that new Ford engine might be a Mustang choice, we should know in a couple of years.

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So far, from what I've read, the new 7.3 is intended for super duty (F-250 and up).  It might fit in an F-150 but information is sketchy.  

 

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Yeah that 7.3 will be an iron anchor, meaning a Mustang would desire an aluminum version (and cost more) and be redesigned as more sporty over payload towing. It is sweet to imagine (especially exhaust sounds!) though. But big block displacement that isn't a truck, is more likely with Dodge than Ford.

What I believe to happen, is a Gen 4 Hybrid Coyote 5.0 engine (I hope it does not downsize to 4.0, but may have to). The main appeal will be the electric motors to provide two things: High low end torque and AWD for an already high revving NA motor. The Aviator Grand Touring gives good foreshadowing, along with that patent on a V8 hybrid design for Ford.

I hope that Gen 4 hits like 5xx HP and around 7xx TQ. The Aviator seems to foreshadow this after all. I'm also just awaiting to see the MKZ's future and what it will be (and then come back to Lincoln). I'll be seeking to replace my Focus in 2021 after all, as the Mustang will be my fun car.

For now I'm leaning towards a 2020 Stang just to see what new changes are coming beyond the paint colors. Like, Will they finally add power folding mirrors to US Stangs already?!

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Well, I received my Livernois tunes, a 91 and 93 octane tune. I uploaded it to my car, not exactly blown away by the tuner interface, when it was done it didn't say complete or finished, just key off ignition for 3 seconds so I figured it was done.

I read the information sent with the tune and it states the transmission may shift funny while it's re-learning, that's for sure! It shifted like it was drunk at first even my wife was asking me what the hell is going on with your car?? About half way to work it seems to have sorted itself out. Throttle tip in is incredible, just a bit of throttle and boost comes on and you're passing people with zero effort. It has always done this but it's better now.

Full throttle will set the front tires begging for grip until the back tires are engaged which is very fast but still, the tires are not adequate for this power level, so what the tune does give is enough to want me to get better tires. The butt dyno says the car is definitely making more power you can feel, perhaps the timing comes in sooner and higher because it honestly feels like there is more kick than before.

Starting at 1/4 of the way to work I babied it and drove normal, I noticed it likes to stay in 5th longer than it did before the tune so when I hit 40mph I now paddle shift into 6th and I notice the converter seems to lock up and you can just use boost/torque to gain momentum and while doing so it doesn't use as much gas as before. Most times I tested this I am at 21/22 mpg when I get to work, today I was at 24.9 keeping in mind I had to make sure to up-shift at 40 into 6th.

I haven't done a full throttle 1/4 mile run yet, but so far I'm very impressed with the acceleration. 

I have a 5 hour drive on Monday which should help get the transmission learning fully sorted and I plan a couple of full throttle test runs as well.

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On 2/11/2019 at 7:39 PM, Zalvern said:

Yeah that 7.3 will be an iron anchor, meaning a Mustang would desire an aluminum version (and cost more) and be redesigned as more sporty over payload towing. It is sweet to imagine (especially exhaust sounds!) though. But big block displacement that isn't a truck, is more likely with Dodge than Ford.

What I believe to happen, is a Gen 4 Hybrid Coyote 5.0 engine (I hope it does not downsize to 4.0, but may have to). The main appeal will be the electric motors to provide two things: High low end torque and AWD for an already high revving NA motor. The Aviator Grand Touring gives good foreshadowing, along with that patent on a V8 hybrid design for Ford.

I hope that Gen 4 hits like 5xx HP and around 7xx TQ. The Aviator seems to foreshadow this after all. I'm also just awaiting to see the MKZ's future and what it will be (and then come back to Lincoln). I'll be seeking to replace my Focus in 2021 after all, as the Mustang will be my fun car.

For now I'm leaning towards a 2020 Stang just to see what new changes are coming beyond the paint colors. Like, Will they finally add power folding mirrors to US Stangs already?!

The power folding mirrors on my MKZ have issues with very cold temps and freezing up so they don't fold. I turned the folding feature off even though the dealer says no need. Well if no need why did they have to repair them, so I'll leave that off until Spring. I also wonder about the future of the MKZ, I could see keeping mine until 2021 and then trading in for a new one with maybe a hybrid design making 450+hp and 500lbft of torque or more, I can wish. :)

As for the Mustang, we'll have to see but an AWD version with more power, oh yeah that would be awesome. An option to dis-engage the front wheels for some fun like Mercedes does would be fantastic. 

 

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I had a similar issue with the folding mirrors on a rather cold day (It was probably in the single digits with wind chill). The mirrors actually wouldn't open after starting the car or at any point during the ride as they were basically frozen. You don't realize how much you use the mirrors until they aren't there and you can't see to make lane changes. Didn't have the issue again, but in reality should have never happened one time. Single digits is cold but not like what they were getting in the Midwest.

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Ah yes, it's not without its cons like remembering to keep them open if it's going to Ice over night. That's the one time I had to remember the downside of power folding mirrors. Didnt have any issues otherwise. 

Ford could optionally package them for more premium trim options. Not everyone will like another gizmo that may hold electronic gremlins. 

Most European region Fords get them because there is no Lincoln upscale branch.

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On 2/15/2019 at 4:22 PM, Dismonkey1 said:

I had a similar issue with the folding mirrors on a rather cold day (It was probably in the single digits with wind chill). The mirrors actually wouldn't open after starting the car or at any point during the ride as they were basically frozen. You don't realize how much you use the mirrors until they aren't there and you can't see to make lane changes. Didn't have the issue again, but in reality should have never happened one time. Single digits is cold but not like what they were getting in the Midwest.

I disabled the function, I'll re-enable it in the Spring. 

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I drove 14 hours yesterday, we decided to get it over with. The transmission exhibited an abrupt 1-2 shift a few times but averaging 72 mph for the entire trip I averaged 27.7 mpg, one reason is because on my way home a guy in a Honda Accord V6 drove straight up my tailpipe going around a long curve merging off of 290 West to get onto Rt 20. I put the car into sport mode and gav it some gas, now it's true the MKZ is no Sport sedan but it actually does better than other non Sport sedans in the twisties.

He couldn't keep up and of course we ended up next to each other at the stop light where I figured I'd just let him go but no, I looked over to my left and he and his girlfriend looked like they thought they were going to whup on an old fart in his old fart Lincoln. The light went green, he gave it everything he had, I waited a sec before hitting the gas and then floored it and the car responded with the front tires screeching for grip and blowing by him like he went into reverse.

What a waste of gas, I knew what the result would be and it went exactly like that but watching it happen it drove home the point that the way the MKZ sits right now if I race a stock 3v Mustang GT, a lightly or more modified 2v New Edge GT it isn't even going to be a race and it may very well scare a few gen 1 Coyote's if not give them a run.

I'm trying to envision Lincoln execs as engineering has delivered to them a new 3.0 twin turbo that delivers 400hp / 400 torque, screw Ford it's about time we had some fun. I have seen other 3.0's on the road, but they are driven exactly like the 2.0's and 3.7's, very conservatively not that I expect them to be street racing but Lincoln has a rep for old folks driving slow cars. 

I fully intend to use that when I go to Great Lakes Dragaway this Spring, I'm going to let the car cool down when I get there and I'm going to pick and choose a few Mustang's running what I think my car will run and then I'm going to ask them if they want a go. I'm pretty sure of the responses, like, you're kidding right?

I simply can't wait, who would have thought I bought a new Mustang GT April 2018 and then I would trade in a lease for what I thought might be a 3.7 MKZ only to find out it's the mighty 3.0 twin turbo that turns out to put the same kind of smile on my face when driving, incredible. 😜

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