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Up here in Western Mass. we just had first serious snow weather.  It was 4 inches but what made it serious was that it was ice on snow. The tires handled these conditions with great confidence ,even the last steep hill back to my house , the passengers in the car were impressed. I do want to emphasize that these will not replace dedicated snow tires for larger amounts of snow , but I am very confident with these for average snow weather ,I also have noticed that they have the rim protection feature. I had them put on by Lincoln dealer with the $140.00 rebate about two months ago.

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Which tires were on it before?

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Michelin mxm 4 came with the car ,they were very good on dry and wet surfaces. I had these on my 2013 MKZh and found them slipping a lot in snow , so I put on the Perillis last year and noticed the better snow gripping. So I did have experience with them both ,and the other tire that was rated really good was the Michellin Pilot sport a/s 3. However my having the Perillis on my last car and the fact that I liked them a lot was the deciding factor,plus the $140.00 rebate that is offered from the dealer. I like the fact that all these tires (both P7 a/s plus and Miches) come with the rim protection ,the Michelins have the better rim protectors. Now the tire I am talking about is the Perilli P7 PLUS ,it must say PLUS ,it does make a difference.

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How do you like the noise level and ride compared to the stock MXMs?

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Very comparable ,I would give a slight edge to the Miches on dry road , but for me the snow factor was all important. Last year with the Miches I slid down my driveway and dented my fender so that cost me right there , with the Perillis I do not slip and I must say I do take more care going down the driveway after that dent. As for noise I again would give a slight edge to the Miches. So I would rate Miches a 9 for dry and noise and a 4 for snow. The Perillis a 8 for dry and noise and a 7 for snow. You can see  these tires comparisons on the Tire Rack site but I am giving you my real world experience with them.

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On 12/10/2017 at 9:42 AM, jimflutes said:

Michelin mxm 4 came with the car ,they were very good on dry and wet surfaces. I had these on my 2013 MKZh and found them slipping a lot in snow , so I put on the Perillis last year and noticed the better snow gripping. So I did have experience with them both ,and the other tire that was rated really good was the Michellin Pilot sport a/s 3. However my having the Perillis on my last car and the fact that I liked them a lot was the deciding factor,plus the $140.00 rebate that is offered from the dealer. I like the fact that all these tires (both P7 a/s plus and Miches) come with the rim protection ,the Michelins have the better rim protectors. Now the tire I am talking about is the Perilli P7 PLUS ,it must say PLUS ,it does make a difference.

So what is the difference between the p7 and the p7 plus?  I have a chance at a set of p7 takeoffs at a good price... Thanks 

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9 hours ago, jrross said:

So what is the difference between the p7 and the p7 plus?  I have a chance at a set of p7 takeoffs at a good price... Thanks 

Hi jrross. The  previous P7 is or was produced in all-season, all-season run flat, and summer tire versions (P7 All-Season and P7).  The new P7 A/S Plus is an all-season tire. 

The tread patterns of the previous P7 A/S and the new P7 A/S Plus look the same. My guess would be that the P7 A/S Plus is simply the new, updated version of the previous P7 All-Season. A little lighter, improvements in treadwear, "Greener" etc.

Assuming you want an all-season tire in Ontario, make sure the take-offs are the all-season version of the P7. And not the run flat version, unless that's what you want.

For what it's worth other than that, I got this by Googling "Pirelli P7 vs Pirelli P7 All Season Plus" - https://blog.tirerack.com/blog/bens-blog/pirelli-cinturato-p7-all-season-vs-cinturato-p7-all-season-plus

Hope it helps. Good luck.

Edited by bbf2530

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Very helpful!  thanks very much!   I use dedicated winter tires as well here, just in case so I would think that these will likely be a set that will suffice nicely for the summer.  They are 1k only on them and with factory Volvo rims for $650.

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1 hour ago, jrross said:

Very helpful!  thanks very much!   I use dedicated winter tires as well here, just in case so I would think that these will likely be a set that will suffice nicely for the summer.  They are 1k only on them and with factory Volvo rims for $650.

Hi jrross.  You are very welcome.

You mentioned that the tires come with the factory Volvo wheels? Are you planning on using them on your MKZ? Off the top of my head, I do not know the wheel sizing for whichever Volvo wheels you would be getting.  You probably know this, but don't assume you can use them without finding out the tire size, wheel size (diameter and width), lug spacing, wheel offset, centerbore size, etc..

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On ‎7‎/‎30‎/‎2018 at 5:12 PM, bbf2530 said:

Hi jrross.  You are very welcome.

You mentioned that the tires come with the factory Volvo wheels? Are you planning on using them on your MKZ? Off the top of my head, I do not know the wheel sizing for whichever Volvo wheels you would be getting.  You probably know this, but don't assume you can use them without finding out the tire size, wheel size (diameter and width), lug spacing, wheel offset, centerbore size, etc..

Yes I did check into the specs and the Volvo wheels are the same centre bore, same bolt pattern however the offset is 45 vs the 55 that is on the MKZ.  from what I have researched, this should be a negligible difference?

 

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7 hours ago, jrross said:

Yes I did check into the specs and the Volvo wheels are the same centre bore, same bolt pattern however the offset is 45 vs the 55 that is on the MKZ.  from what I have researched, this should be a negligible difference?

 

Hi jrross.  What about the wheel width? What is the width of the Volvo wheels? It is not possible to accurately estimate the sizing and clearances without knowing the wheels width.

Assuming your +45 and +55mm offset quotes are correct (I don't know firsthand): If the MKZ and Volvo wheels are the same width, then 10mm less offset will mean the Volvo wheels will have 10mm more clearance on the suspension side and stick out 10mm more on the fender side.

Here is a good wheel offset calculator: https://www.1010tires.com/Tools/Wheel-Offset-Calculator

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Yes they are both 8 inch wide rims... Should have mentioned that... 10 mm would be pretty negligible no? 

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28 minutes ago, jrross said:

Yes they are both 8 inch wide rims... Should have mentioned that... 10 mm would be pretty negligible no? 

Hi jrross. I've heard space is relatively tight on the suspension side of things. However, 10mm = 1cm =  < .5 inch should not make a difference on the fender side, assuming all the information we have so far is correct. 🙂

Keep in mind: You will need to be careful in the future concerning going any wider than stock tread width with tires, since things will already be extended 10mm out with the Volvo wheels. Just something to remember.

Good luck.

PS - And always play it safe. Don't take my or any other online stranger words as gospel.  Use the tire and wheel offset calculator and other Expert resources to check things yourself.

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