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  1. Zalvern

    3.0T Performance Modifications

    All one can do is openly talk with the service department head manager in regards to modifications. Contact by email address or make a call. Ask specifically what is the service department's stance on a modification desired, and how it may impact a warranty claim. Upgrading to Revel Ultima with all OEM parts, is not the vehicle's original equipment by assembly, and thus can be denied under the Electrical Warranty if something goes wrong later. One may get told "revert to stock" for a claim approval. Electronics modifications can be a bigger can of worms if it involves the Body Control Module in any way. It's important to find a service department and be transparent before modding anything beyond stock that isn't easy to swap back. Whether choosing an FMIC upgrade or Revel Ultima upgrade, the risks of warranty denial for those fall under the same condition. This isn't to sway one from modding, just facts on how to assess risk acceptance level, being confident in it, and able to survive potential consequences that might happen. So reach out to the closest service departments till you hear the answers you'd like to expect, but even then, decide if you're okay with the unknown risk chance to not depend on the OEM and/or Certified warranty. There are service dealerships that if you pay for them to install non-OEM assembly parts, they may honor thier own in house form of warranty if something goes wrong. Not cheap but it's because they provide that peace of mind. This makes it so you do not have to depend on OEM warranty if it gets denied.
  2. Zalvern

    3.0T Performance Modifications

    I'm quoting so its doubly said. For bbf2530 states the facts in regards to the whole modding vs. warranty coverage question that pops up on vehicle forums everywhere. What warranty has written, is what has to be accepted. I wouldn't call it a rant either, just the actual facts on the matter. If warranty is of utmost importance for financial reasons: I recommend it is best to leave the vehicle alone and accept it for what it is. I cannot promise gray "what ifs" thoughts over facts. It is a luxury and hobby to modify a vehicle beyond stock. I have myself a savings made for taking care of my vehicle out of pocket if ever needed. My list of suggestions to reflect on before touching a single modification: 1. Be confident in understanding your own vehicle, monitor its parameters with a scan tool occasionally like FORScan. 2. Understand that car degradation issues do not happen overnight, but with time being combined with heat and stress. 3. PCM Tuning will always be open for warranty voided risk if a catastrophic power train event occurs post installation. Don't think reverting back to stock will outwit service engineers. Know the differences between Warranty Voided and Denial: Voided: A catastrophic event has occurred with the vehicle and has been evidenced to operating outside manufacturer parameters, suffered to driver or environment conditions, or "module black box" history tampering post the event. The vehicle is in inoperative condition. PCM Tuning no matter what, applies more stress beyond manufacturer's intended operations, and can have a lingering effect even if reverted back to stock. In the PC world, we call it Overclocking and if abused too much, it results in degradation that can accelerate towards longevity failure. PCM tuning risks should be fully understood and accepted with no bail out expectations if things go bad. Denial: Customer has an aftermarket or non-OEM part that can potentially relate to the issue at hand, but vehicle is still operative. Magnuson Moss Warranty Act only prevents turning denials into voided because an aftermarket part was seen on the vehicle, or irrelevant matters pertaining to the customer's claim request. Warranty/Service still has the right to not honor a claim if concerned about a part being the cause and refusing to diagnose until reverted back to OEM parts. Warranty coverage will not be lost as long it doesn't elevate to catastrophic events. One may just have to go to another dealership for service approval instead. Note that dealerships who deny warranty, usually do so before even submitting the claim to the manufacturer. This is to save time and money on their part if they think a claim is at risk of being rejected by the manufacturer. The "unable to replicate the issue" is a common bummer for customers, but its mostly because the dealership knows they're lacking evidence to validate a chance for a claim approval. In Ford/Lincoln's claim case, the dealership will know very well how the warranty process will go if based on the claim, the customer's automotive history, and evidence gathered. All you can do is be honest, transparent, and know the risks depending on your choices.
  3. Zalvern

    3.0T Performance Modifications

    I see. Falling flat on its face at higher speeds, is prone to happen with the MKZ in stock form. One of the culprits is the stock Front Mount Intercooler, for what happens is applying full engine load causes the FMIC to be overwhelmed by heatsoak. If you use a scantool like FORScan to watch Charge Air Temperature reading, it will climb rapidly when you go full throttle. This means the FMIC is flat out inefficient at higher loads, and only good enough at your typical street driving mid-low load speeds. I only got consistent pull at higher RPMs when I upgraded the Intercooler. Adding things like the heat shield padded Steeda Intake and BBK/Ford Performance Throttle Body smoothed and cooled it out even further. Go Fast Bits DV+ 9358 made boost more reliable as well. Those four bolt-on mods work well, but FMIC on its own is the only one to consider at minimum. Go Fast Bits DV+ 9358 is next for its not that costly and easy to add on. CAI and Throttle Body upgrading is more minor and less cost effective compared to the other two, only slightly helping IAT temperatures further but can be skipped. My mindset in vehicle modding is to seek true efficiency and consistent performance over just making more power and going faster. That's all in fluid temperature control, between oils, coolant, and intake/exhaust air flow and pressure. A tune gives power by allowing higher parameter limits, but not better stamina to a vehicle that's still fully stock. Most OEM FMICs are not made with high load performance and speed in mind, nor cared about. So the OEM production can reduce costs by just giving what is good enough for a street car making EPA Fuel Economy goals. 3.0T MKZ shares the same FMIC as a Fusion Sport, despite making more power and heat, so that alone should give a heads up. I would ask the dealership to verify your spark plugs look good and no fluid leaks are found. If you are seeking consistent performance, I recommend the FMIC first before tuning, as it will solve the falling flat at high load speeds issue which a tune will not fix on its own. It's the toughest to install out of all mods, but does bring very satisfying results like pulling all the way to Red line without falling flat. With that said, good luck with whatever choice you decide on is best for you.
  4. Zalvern

    3.0T Performance Modifications

    If it is just gurgling alone, that won't be enough to push them to fix things. There has to be a bit more form of potential-detrimental proof. In my case it was a wet spark plug, since it was really hard to replicate when the car would throw a CEL under hard acceleration. Gurgling dash just means there is a possible chance coolant is steadily leaking and air keeps coming back in overtime. But there are some cars that just have this issue of air trapping in there no matter what, but no coolant leak. As bbf2530 mentioned, simply go in and ask about the TSB, your MKZ's build date and how it falls in range, and your concerns in feeling its ill-performing at times. Have you ever had a flashing CEL event though? Anyone who will suffer this issue should have a CEL event at some point, even if rare.
  5. Zalvern

    Fuel filter question

    It'll be nothing more than basic tools for the most part, things you could find at a hardware store once you verify the steps. It's a 1 hour service book job (the rate you'll be charged at, even if done faster than an hour), but of course service hour rates are higher than ever. I had some 2017+ MKZ workshop pages saved but they're not with me and I only took what I used for the times when I was diving into mods, and to do all the engine fluid changes and other services that are DIY friendly. I do not have the fuel filter procedure though as I didn't notice it existed back then, and my old MKZ stuff is on a hard drive I cannot access at this time.
  6. Dogging out as I call it, is a total kill joy and embarrassing moment. This may not be just the transmission limitation (that even aftermarket tunes will not fix) given your instance when passing slow cars issue. So a few questions to ask for more information: Have you ever thrown any check engine lights or felt the vehicle shudder when demanding more acceleration? Do you have the Go Fast Bits DV+ 9358 add on for the boost tube? What year was your MKZ exactly built? Since it's a 2017, check the door placard for the build date in the top left corner, near Front GVWR.
  7. Zalvern

    Fuel filter question

    You can DIY but must understand how to depressurize the fuel rail line. That is the main importance. A service manual can be rented for 72 hours at https://www.motorcraftservice.com/ after making an account. Cost is about $21.95 USD, so that is around $31 CAD. The manual will tell you how to correctly perform a fuel filter service. Skill level is equal to that of an oil change once understood.
  8. Zalvern

    3.0T Performance Modifications

    Hey good luck and have fun with it by all means. Personalize your car the way you want to see it. Since you have a 2017 (that might have been built in 2016): Check the spark plugs and hope they're all dry with no signs of corrosion. Also listen for a "water gurgling behind the dash board" with the car in park and giving it a little revs, which hopefully you do not hear. If plugs are wet, and hearing dash board gurgling, then new cylinder heads will be needed on that engine asap before seeking better performance and modding. Here is the TSB for the engine issue, and its got quite the shopping list. So you want warranty to handle this: https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2019/MC-10164421-0001.pdf Any MKZ built in 2016 is high risk for this flaw. Verify via Window Sticker, or Door Jam Built Date. Possible early 2017 builds might have slipped out too.
  9. Zalvern

    3.0T Performance Modifications

    Well since you asked, I'll elaborate. The question is inquiring about a Big Brake Kit rather than just a pad and brake line upgrade. If seeking better XXX-0 stopping power, tires always comes first and then follow up with aggressive brake pads if still not satisfied. Brake lines are more personal, but my 2017 3.0T MKZ brake lines were definitely a better material than my 2014 Fusion had (and thus I suspect the same for your former 2014 3.7 MKZ), and so I stayed with stock lines even though Steeda does have SS Brake Lines for the Fusion (can't confirm if direct fit onto the MKZ as there was a difference in brake line part numbers this time with Ford/Lincoln). The 2017 Brake Lines on my Black Label MKZ with Driver's Package were a higher quality silicone that shouldn't expand as badly and thicker too. I ran Pilot Super Sports (and was going to upgrade to 4S until my MKZ was destroyed) during summer and took my car up to high speeds at some points, especially at the drag strip when I manage to hit some 110 trap times, and even used it at times to test hard braking back down to single digit speeds. Never had a throbbing issue or any event I felt the brake power was becoming uncomfortable, which is only my personal assessment with my vehicle. Braking it hard upon crossing the quarter mile line, or a time I had a little speed fun on a long winding road seemed on point with just a tire upgrade for my needs, as I didn't even touch more aggressive pads yet. This is why I am personally on leaving the brake system alone, as I was pretty much satisfied with just a tire upgrade for my needs. The Big Brake Kits main objective is better brake fade resistance due to higher surface area for more heat dissipation during brake event, not gaining actual stopping power which can be achieved without it. Street cars or daily drivers should not intentionally be encountering high speed braking events so much to warrant a Big Brake Kit in being useful. The costs for these kits are otherwise ridiculously high due to DOT involvement. I did not know of any ready kit made available, but FunktasticLucky put out options though. So if someone really wants it for the looks, well that is their choice. But it isn't something to chase or invest for pure performance reasons like trying to discover how to make more horsepower/torque. Brake power should be about how much you actually demand otherwise, keep it simple and fully DOT legal.
  10. Zalvern

    3.0T Performance Modifications

    Darkstar retired from making these, and that was a long time ago I spoken to him about them. https://ultimateperformancenm.com/shop?olsPage=products Are the only parts available. I would leave the brakes alone personally. Nobody that I know of, touched a big brake kit nor is there a ready-made kit available.
  11. Zalvern

    Cold Air Intake for 2020 MKZ 3.0T

    I should sum it up more simply in regards to that post. I'm different from what I was back then. Those were days of growing to learn the 3.0T MKZ. It's an individual's choice to decide if it's worth it or not. Yes, the Steeda CAI is an improvement over stock. It will reduce IAT1 temps better than stock box. But there are other issues in place that make it's benefits not worth the price. Would I do this mod again? No. I wouldn't do any go fast mods actually. Time and money it took did not accomplish what I wanted. All because of one issue: No matter how much performance is chased, the 3.0T MKZ will be held back by it's transmission programming in low gears. No aftermarket tunes will save it either, and only slightly reduce but not eliminate. Thus all performance mods are not being fully utilized on the 3.0T with 6F55 transmission. This is why I did not get myself another 3.0T MKZ. It is a good car, but only for what it is in stock form if the owner is fine with it's transmission behavior.
  12. Zalvern

    OBDII Link for FORScan

    Same Instrument hardware so its definitely capable. I don't know the exact Asbuilt location to modify for it to be enabled on a MKZ Hybrid. Though sounds like they're just trying to keep it in the "green" range being a hybrid owner. ...Or just overlooked it cause of that thinking.
  13. Zalvern

    OBDII Link for FORScan

    Huh? Does your instrument panel gauge not show your driving modes? Unless I'm misunderstanding something. It should be Blue when in comfort. No color when normal, and red when in Sport. Even should have the words "Comfort" and "Sport" on the instrument panel. MKZ should definitely do this from the get go, no FORScan modding needed.
  14. Just to throw it out there: https://www.bergeyslincoln.com/certified/Lincoln/2017-Lincoln-MKZ-lansdale-pa-ea2099940a0e0ae84c7f6b0d7a02a968.htm?searchDepth=1:41 Is perhaps the last low mileage, fully loaded Black Label Lincoln MKZ out there for sale. I really did like that Vineyard interior. Prior to finding my Mazda 6, I was interested in this one. Bergley's is known to being one of the Lincoln dealers who obtain most of Lincoln's show room cars or lightly used corporate models. Basically, well taken care of and new without the 1st owner premium price tag. This one is especially being taken well care of. With the times now, I almost think one could even push to get this close to 30k out the door. Of course, only buy if you really want to enjoy one of the best MKZs there is. It's a baby with only a bit over 11k miles. A lot of car for what is nearly a Ford Fusion Sport price now. Has the front plate drilled in, alas. A fix would mean repainting the bumper. Also built in 2016, so it "might" get the engine issue, just inspect spark plugs. Watch the PTU/Transmission seals over time for leaks. Driver seat cushion is also sagging and creaking up, if you look closely to the seat side (so request this to be fixed under warranty). You get that CPO warranty which is better than standard factory.
  15. Zalvern

    Livernois or Unleashed/Torrie?

    For the most part, either will work. Helps the transmission be a bit more aggressive in shifting from 2nd to 3rd, but will not completely eliminate bogging off the line. To assist with that would require a side transmission mount and under body mount, but darkstar doesn't make these anymore. Unleashed sounds more ideal if one will seek E30 tuning, or feel their car is performing the best it can. Livernois has been more about ease factor for a daily driver, sticking with pump 93 gas at best.