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#41 houtex

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Posted 18 April 2017 - 09:12 PM

There would be some serious security issues if the car could driven without a key fob present.


How does Tesla do it?





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#42 drolds1

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 02:09 AM

There would be some serious security issues if the car could driven without a key fob present.

Indeed.  And what happens if you arrive at your destination without the fob and the app doesn't work for the return trip, for whatever the reason?  I certainly don't have the kind of confidence to go anywhere without the fob.

 

 

Another advantage:  My son lives in AZ.  He can start his MKC before he leaves work if it's parked out of range of the fob and the car will be cool when he leaves.



#43 colinsz

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 08:38 AM

but aren't there serious security issues anyway? -- All someone needs do is break into the car and drive off .........or am I missing something?

 

 

Not to mention someone hacking one's cell app to steal the car.

 

Until I can answer all these questions I'm going to dump the app.

 

It's a great gadget and altho I can see the need for locking the car remotely, I don't see the need for that kind of remote starting just for the convenience of heating or cooling the car.

 

any thoughts on that?


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#44 JoeBrown

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 09:16 AM

From me (a retired IT Professional), I don't allow any internet/remote access to my vehicle.


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#45 pjrocco

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 09:30 AM

The vehicle will not travel when started remotely without the fob. There is a way to drive the vehicle without the fob, but I'm not giving that info out on public forum. Most people figure it out by accident.

 

If you have a concern with the remote start feature, you can disable it via the drivers menu. 



#46 drolds1

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 11:47 AM

but aren't there serious security issues anyway? -- All someone needs do is break into the car and drive off .........or am I missing something?

 

Yes.  You can't put the car in gear or steer it if the fob isn't in proximity.  Not to mention that the engine will shut off if the car isn't unlocked with the fob and the door is opened.

 

The app lets you schedule a start at a pre-scheduled time.  There are people that find this useful, my son included, as I mentioned above.

 

I tried it out just to see how it works but found that it was depleting the battery in my phone at an accelerated rate if I stayed signed in.  So I logged off.  Apparently, it stays in contact with the car 24/7 if you're logged in



#47 drolds1

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 12:23 PM

I lnow what you are saying. My Fusion windows had to be reset constantly. This is a differerent issue. It looks like the window is slightly misaligned. When it reaches the top it heads back down again about two thirds of the way. If I roll it down all the way you can still see a little bit of the window. It doesn't go all the way down
I have an appointment on Tuesday. Get to try out the pickup and loaner program:)

 

2017 MKZ/Fusion/Continental – Window Bounce Back And/Or Loss Of Window One-Touch Up Functionality

Some 2017 MKZ, Fusion, and Continental vehicles may exhibit window bounce back when using the one-touch feature and/or a loss of window one-touch up functionality.

 

 

Perform the Integrated Diagnostic System (IDS) power door window initialization procedure.

The learn procedure is available on IDS software version 104.02 or later. Access to this IDS learn procedure is available under Toolbox / Body /Power Window Initialization.

 

No additional repairs should be attempted if this does not resolve the concern.

Engineering is aware and is currently investigating. Monitor OASIS for future updates.

 

 

 My car started doing this the other day.  When you close the front passenger window using 1-touch, it bounces back and rolls down after it hits the top, stopping part of the way down. The only way to close it is to hold the button up until it closes completely and keep it in the up position for a second a two.

 

This is only occurring with the front passenger window and it doesn't appear that they have a permanent fix for it yet.  Someone on the Ford Fusion Forum had it done and the "fix" lasted two days.  I don't know if I'll bother getting it serviced until they come up with a permanent repair.  They were never able to permanently fix the ambient lighting problem in my 2014. They reprogrammed it three times and I just gave up.



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Posted 19 April 2017 - 12:44 PM

I took delivery of my 2017 this past Monday.  I'll get a picture up when I get a chance.  It's been a busy week.  I'm absolutely loving this one.  Power and handling aside, they've made so many little detail improvements compared to my 2014 and Sync 3 blows Sync 2 out of the water.

 

We went to my daughter's in NJ on Tuesday so it got an immediate trial.  Round trip of 200+ miles plus.  With no mileage on it and 100hp more than my 2014 with the 3.7, it already returned better MPG than the latter ever did on the same trip.  At one point, I saw an indicated 29mpg at 75mph cruise.  The power is addicting, though, so that won't last.

 

Unfortunately, it did develop a problem before I even got home from the dealer.  We stopped on the way home to pick up a few things and when I got back in and started it up, there was no sound with Sirius.  AM and FM were OK.  When I got home I called them and they said to bring it back in on Tues. but I couldn't do that.  When I went outside to program Home Link, Sirius was back.  I figured that was the end of that.  Nope.  Since then, it will randomly play at start-up or not.  I called Sirius and they had me go through a whole process where I had to get out of the car and stand 35 feet away with the IA key and Bluetooth off while they rebooted the radio and sent a "stronger signal."  It was working but it stopped the next day.  :rant2: They said that if this didn't fix it, it was most likely a hardware problem and to take it back to the dealer.  I might do that Monday.  We'll be out of town again on Tuesday for a week.  More to follow.

Update on the Sirius issue.  It took two service visits and two weeks.  They said it was a faulty DSP and told me it was fixed.  When I got in the car it wasn't working.  They were incredulous.  I just took the loaner back.  Then they called and said it was the now determined to be the ACM but it was on backorder and they didn't know when it would come in.  I spoke to the Service Mgr. and asked him if they could take one out of a car in inventory.  Then they could worry about when it would come in instead of me having no Sirius for an indefinite period.  He said he would look into it.  The next day they called and said that the ACM was in.  They replaced it and all is well since then.

 

BTW, the Service Mgr. told me that they were having a run of Sirius issues lately, not only with Fords and Lincolns but with Subarus (their other franchise) as well.  Odd.


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Posted 19 April 2017 - 01:51 PM

Yes.  You can't put the car in gear or steer it if the fob isn't in proximity.  Not to mention that the engine will shut off if the car isn't unlocked with the fob and the door is opened.

 

The app lets you schedule a start at a pre-scheduled time.  There are people that find this useful, my son included, as I mentioned above.

 

I tried it out just to see how it works but found that it was depleting the battery in my phone at an accelerated rate if I stayed signed in.  So I logged off.  Apparently, it stays in contact with the car 24/7 if you're logged in

 

 

Thank you. That makes somewhat more sense now. 

Yes I can see that the feature would be useful to some.

 

I'm still not 100% convinced tho, due to what our club members Joe Brown and Pjrocco shared above.

Perhaps 99% is good enough. I hope so.

 

Tnx for the input.

 

I should add, to somewhat keep things on track,  that other than that issue I'm very happy with the car which is nothing like I've owned b4. It really is a treat to drive.


Edited by colinsz, 19 April 2017 - 04:56 PM.


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Posted 19 April 2017 - 09:32 PM

Exactly... the app is to allow you to start the car to warm up or cool down from the comfort of your office, restaurant etc. or if you are unsure you locked the doors you can lock them from the same remote area. The fob being present to drive makes sure that someone don't hack your phone etc through wifi then go on a nice little joy ride in your car ...
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Posted 20 April 2017 - 05:31 AM

That's how I see it too and until they come up with a foolproof facial recognition system I think this is the next best thing.
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Posted 01 May 2017 - 09:58 PM

So, I've had my MKZ for just under a week and 165 miles. I am VERY pleased so far, more than I expected!

I came out of a 3-year lease on a 2014 Cadillac CTS which I loved, but the lack of changes in the '17 vs the '14 led me to the MKZ. I was fully expecting (and OK with) it to feel like a downgrade (my mid-trim level CTS stickered at $58K vs. $47K for the MKZ) but it doesn't AT ALL! The improvements to the MKZ's interior for 2017 are very significant. The Lincoln is quieter than the Cadillac, absorbs bumps MUCH better (CTS had those awful run-flat tires), and feels to have the same turning circle and handling ability in normal street driving. Acceleration is noticeably stronger than the 3.6 V-6 in the Cadi. Style-wise both inside and out the Lincoln is a little more "unique" looking. I really like the pushbutton shifter!

I am absolutely delighted (so far) with my decision to go with Lincoln this time around!


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#53 colinsz

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 08:14 AM

great to hear that all is well with the new Z.........Indeed very quiet which allows just a hint of growl from the exhausts. Love it.

Enjoy

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