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Posted 20 May 2016 - 04:53 PM

I like the 2017 design, including the front look.  Kinda reminds me of Jaguar.

 

Has anyone been able to put their hands on an 2017 Order Guide?  I've looked around but not found any.







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Posted 20 May 2016 - 06:13 PM

 

I like the 2017 design, including the front look.  Kinda reminds me of Jaguar.

 

Has anyone been able to put their hands on an 2017 Order Guide?  I've looked around but not found any.

I have one. It's a paper copy, but I can scan it when I get a chance.


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Posted 20 May 2016 - 06:33 PM

I like the 2017 design, including the front look.  Kinda reminds me of Jaguar.

 

Has anyone been able to put their hands on an 2017 Order Guide?  I've looked around but not found any.

 

Actually, here is the 2017 Lincoln MKZ Order Guide. If you want the Black Label order guide, let me know. That's the one I'd have to scan.


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Posted 20 May 2016 - 07:24 PM

Yes, BL PLEASE!!



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Posted 20 May 2016 - 07:45 PM

Yes, BL PLEASE!!

 

Okay. I don't have the patience to do it with my scanner at home. But I have to step out for a minute anyway...I'll swing by my office and scan it there. The PDF will be much better quality and searchable with the press of one button. :)‚Äč



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Posted 20 May 2016 - 09:00 PM

Here is the 2017 Lincoln MKZ Black Label Order Guide. I also thought some of you might be interested in the 2017 Lincoln MKZ Black Label Visual Reference Guide, so I attached that, too.

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Posted 20 May 2016 - 09:32 PM

Thanks!!



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Posted 21 May 2016 - 08:08 AM

Thanks!!

 

You're welcome... going to order yours today? LOL :)



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Posted 21 May 2016 - 02:33 PM

No, I have to wait for them to come in and take a test drive.  I do have an appointment for Monday to see the sales manager and test drive a hybrid.  I am only interested in the 400hp but the auto show I attended had coupons sent out for people interested in Lincolns.  They will give me a $75 Master Card for a test drive of a new Lincoln so I might as well take advantage of it and get to know the sales manager at the same time.  But I would never order a car sight unseen or without at least driving one around a little.



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Posted 21 May 2016 - 02:43 PM

No, I have to wait for them to come in and take a test drive.  I do have an appointment for Monday to see the sales manager and test drive a hybrid.  I am only interested in the 400hp but the auto show I attended had coupons sent out for people interested in Lincolns.  They will give me a $75 Master Card for a test drive of a new Lincoln so I might as well take advantage of it and get to know the sales manager at the same time.  But I would never order a car sight unseen or without at least driving one around a little.

Oh, yea...I remember you talking about that earlier in this thread. Yea, I guess if you're dead set on the new 3.0L engine, then wait and test drive one. But as far as the hybrid models, the engine, transmission, battery, etc. has remained unchanged since 2013. Besides, of the three dealers I visited, they all pretty much said even if you order, once the vehicle gets here, if you don't like it, you're under no obligation to buy. It's been six weeks and a day since I ordered mine. I heard it was at the factory as of Tuesday this week. But the sales manager is unsure what state it is. It could have been on the production line, or it could just be a chassis waiting for parts. I'll get an update Monday.



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Posted 21 May 2016 - 09:24 PM

Yea, that was me talking about really wanting a test drive before I order.  I am testing a hybrid just to see what it is like (I have never driven one before).  As you point out, the 2016 and 2017 hybrid models will essentially drive the same so if I really like it I could certainly move a hybrid up my list.  Let us know how everything turns out.  Incidentally, you may know the answer to this but I am getting conflicting information.  Is torque vectoring standard on the new engine with all wheel drive?  Or, is part of the driver's package option?  It seems to me that if you have that much hp and torque you almost need something like that to keep the thing under control.



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Posted 22 May 2016 - 09:20 PM

Thank you, Myron! Much appreciated!
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Posted 22 May 2016 - 10:38 PM

Yea, that was me talking about really wanting a test drive before I order.  I am testing a hybrid just to see what it is like (I have never driven one before).  As you point out, the 2016 and 2017 hybrid models will essentially drive the same so if I really like it I could certainly move a hybrid up my list.  Let us know how everything turns out.  Incidentally, you may know the answer to this but I am getting conflicting information.  Is torque vectoring standard on the new engine with all wheel drive?  Or, is part of the driver's package option?  It seems to me that if you have that much hp and torque you almost need something like that to keep the thing under control.

 

I'm not sure...but according to the Order Guide, it looks like a separate option as a part of the Driver's Package. Plus, if you build and price one with the 3.0L engine and all wheel drive, it still has the Driver's Package as a separate option.



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Posted 23 May 2016 - 02:10 AM

Yea, that was me talking about really wanting a test drive before I order.  I am testing a hybrid just to see what it is like (I have never driven one before).  As you point out, the 2016 and 2017 hybrid models will essentially drive the same so if I really like it I could certainly move a hybrid up my list.  Let us know how everything turns out.  Incidentally, you may know the answer to this but I am getting conflicting information.  Is torque vectoring standard on the new engine with all wheel drive?  Or, is part of the driver's package option?  It seems to me that if you have that much hp and torque you almost need something like that to keep the thing under control.

By "under control" do you mean under hard acceleration in a straight line or cornering? Torque vectoring is for cornering.  I assume that's why it's included with the Driver's package along with sport tuned suspension; appealing to those interested in spirited driving.   Ford introduced AWD torque vectoring on the Focus RS. It was developed in consultation with Ken Block, a professional rally driver.

 

Ford video.



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Posted 23 May 2016 - 04:41 AM

Yes, I assumed torque vectoring was for spirited driving, especially useful in cornering.  I also thought it was similar to my MB system known as 4-Matic but I could be wrong about that.  As I understand it the torque is applied (more or less) to each wheel depending on need.  At my age now I can't say I will drive this vehicle in a "spirited" fashion and I would rather have a "luxury" suspension than a harsher sport suspension.  I may not need torque vectoring at all.  Frankly, I don't need 400 hp/torque either but I would like to have it.  The big issue seems to be this driver's package.  If I am stuck with the black interior I know I won't want the driver's package, no matter what else it offers.  That alone may make me move up to the Black Label interiors.  I guess these are the reasons I told Myron I really need to test drive the various cars/engines and see what suits me. 



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Posted 23 May 2016 - 08:04 AM

And yes...the Driver's Package restricts you to the "Driver's Package leather," the black leather interior...with those white accents. I hate it...

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Posted 23 May 2016 - 08:35 AM

Yes, torque vectoring is only with the drivers package on the MKZ but it is standard on the 400 HP Continental.  By the way, my tuned MKS has much more than 400 HP and is completely controllable.  I pretty much only use the extra power in a straight line but unless you enjoy cornering REALLY hard, I doubt if you would want or need torque vectoring.



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Posted 23 May 2016 - 11:54 AM

Yes, I assumed torque vectoring was for spirited driving, especially useful in cornering.  I also thought it was similar to my MB system known as 4-Matic but I could be wrong about that.  As I understand it the torque is applied (more or less) to each wheel depending on need.  At my age now I can't say I will drive this vehicle in a "spirited" fashion and I would rather have a "luxury" suspension than a harsher sport suspension.  I may not need torque vectoring at all.  Frankly, I don't need 400 hp/torque either but I would like to have it.  The big issue seems to be this driver's package.  If I am stuck with the black interior I know I won't want the driver's package, no matter what else it offers.  That alone may make me move up to the Black Label interiors.  I guess these are the reasons I told Myron I really need to test drive the various cars/engines and see what suits me. 

Yeah, that pisses me off too. I'm no fan of black interiors.  I had a 2010 MKZ Sport.  That year you had a choice of black or grey interiors with the Sport.  I had a grey car with (lighter) gray interior.  For my 2012 Sport, the only choice was black with white accents.  I had no choice if I wanted a Sport, which was mandatory for me.  I was not happy but had to live with it b/c I wouldn't own the car without the Sport package.  Included in the previous Sport package was genuine aluminum  interior trim in place of wood.  I wanted the aluminum trim on my 2014 but guess what? Only available with black (Ebony) interior.  Why?

 

Now for 2017, here we are again.  You want the Driver's Package, you have to take black interior.  Why?  People who enjoy a more spirited driving experience aren't also entitled to color choices as well?  Is this the Henry Ford heritage edition (Any color you want as long as it's black)?

 

Of course, there's the $4400 LED headlight (and stereo) option for 2017 to replace the no-cost LED headlights on the 2013-2016s.

 

The new Jaguar XE R-Sport is looking better to me every day.  BTW, there's a choice of four interior colors with the R-Sport.


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Posted 25 May 2016 - 12:12 PM

But the Driver's Package includes Aluminum Foot Pedal Covers!!! 

 

I'd love to get a set of those and put them on my MKZ!  I saw a set on a 2016 Fusion Titanium recently and they looked pretty nice!



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Posted 25 May 2016 - 03:37 PM

But the Driver's Package includes Aluminum Foot Pedal Covers!!! 

 

I'd love to get a set of those and put them on my MKZ!  I saw a set on a 2016 Fusion Titanium recently and they looked pretty nice!

 

I wonder if you buy those separately.








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